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Marres

G-FGC6628

G-FGC6634

zegel mares

Mares

G-Y89939

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G-M201 G-PF3147 G-FGC6669 G-FGC6618 G-FGC6634 G-L91

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The Family Clade

The ancestor of our family is Morech, citizen of Maastricht and landowner in the seigniory Zussen. He is mentioned for the first time in the year 1388.

It is with his great-great-grandson Reyner Marres II (1490 - 1553) that our family splits into two branches Marres en Mares.

One member of the Marres branch and two members of the Mares branch performed a full Y-DNA test. From the first human being to Reynier II, every family member owns the SNPs obtained until then.

An SNP occurs on average once every 150 years. From the number of acquired SNPs, it is therefore possible to estimate the length of time to the first common ancestor with the two other branches from the FGC6618 clade, the families Nolet and Slootmaekers.

Researchers from YSEQ and ISOGG found the following SNPs that we obtained since this branching. The name is a letter number combination that the laboratory gives it. Sometimes there are alias names, then more laboratories dispute the discovery. Found are: FGCC6629, FGC6631, FGC6633, FGC6634, FGC6645, FGC6651, FGC6688, FGC6706, Y30008, Y135620 aka MF8691.

The researchers at YSEQ found two more extras: Y30008 and Y135620 aka MF8691.

This number of 8 to 10 SNPs stands for a duration of 1200 to 1500 years. The branch of the other two family in the Benelux therefore took place in the late Roman period or the beginning of the Middle Ages.

The ISOGG named our clade in its Y-tree FGC6629 . YFull opted for FGC6634.

The Moorrees family, from Eijsden near Maastricht, is, according to a genetic test done to one member of their family, not related to us. (1)

Maastrichts charter betreffende belasting vrijdom voor de gebroeders Matthijs, Jan en Reijner Marres, 8 augustus 1526

At the sons of Reijner Marres II (1465-1530) the family splits into the branches Marres and Mares.

On the left is the image of a charter from the year 1526 in which the two brothers, Matthijs and Reyner, are mentioned together with a third brother Jan from whom no branch came. In this charter, the magistrate of Maastricht confirms their free trade in the duchy of Brabant, the area of which Maastricht was a part of at the time.

The Family Y-DNA clade
FGC6634

Four centuries have passed since the split into two branches, to be precise fourteen generations. You expect two to four SNPs. These are then divided into best, acceptable, ambiguous and low quality.

Boed Marres received after the split of the Marres and Mares branches in the year 1490
according to Full Genomes: FGC6605, FGC6656 and FGC6682
according to FTDNA: FGC6628.
Isn't that strange !?!?
Guus Mares according to FTDNA: Y89939 and Y91026. (2)

splitsing
Matthijs Marres, of Heukelom (1525-1612)

G-FGC6628

Reyner Mares IV, of Fall (1530-1580)

G-Y89939

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The familial Haplotypes

The results of 37 STR markers with four family members, two Marres and two Mares

Dys markers in blue   -   dys values in yellow  -   one genetic step in light brown   -   twee steps in dark brown.

 Most récents Common ancestors    Name   393 390 19a 19b 391 385
a
385
b
426 388 439 389
i
392 389
ii
458 459
a
459
b
455 454 447 437 448 449 464
a
464
b
464
c
464
d
460 GATA
  h4  
YCA
  IIa  
YCA
  IIb  
456 607 576 570 CDY
  a  
CDY
  b  
442 438
 Reyner Marres 
  ±1490 - ±1560  
 J.W. Marres 
 1732 - 1794  
  B. Marres   14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 11 20 20 15 14 17 18 33 40 11 10
  G. Marres   14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 11 20 20 15 14 17 17 33 39 11 10
Peter Mares
1615 - 1686
 A. Mares  14 23 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 10 20 20 15 14 17 18 33 38 11 12
G. Mares 14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 9 9 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 10 20 20 15 14 17 18 32 38 11 11

The duplication of marker 19 in 19a and 19b, both with the same values, was established for the first time with special techniques in Eugene (Boed) Marres DNA sample. The repetition of this study at another laboratory was unfortunately unable to confirm this result. (3)

Genetic Distance

Genetic distance is the total number of STR markers that are different.

TMRCA

The time to most recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA), is calculated on the basis of the genetic distance. Each marker has its own average mutation rate, but when it concerns many markers one can assume an average mutation time. With 37 markers we take one genetic distance for every seven generations. We used Dean Macgee's Y-DNA Comparison Utility of ISOGG. (4)

Genetic Distance
ID Mrr B Mrr G Mr G Mr A
Marres-B 38 2 4 4
Marres-G 2 38 5 5
Mares-G 4 5 38 3
Mares-A 4 5 3 38

Used is the infinite allele mutation model.
The number of markers is in green.

Time to the most recent ancestor - Genetical
ID Mrr B Mrr G Mr G Mr A
Marres-B 38 210 360 360
Marres-G 210 38 450 450
Mares-G 360 450 38 300
Mares-A 360 450 360 38

By FTDNA used mutation rate is 0.0054.
probability is 50% that the TMRCA is no longer than longer then indicated .
average generation is 32 years.

Time to the most recent ancestor - Genealogical
ID Mrr B Mrr G Mr G Mr A
Marres-B 38 188 456 456
Marres-G 188 38 456 456
Mares-G 456 456 38 330
Mares-A 456 456 330 38

The year of birth of ancestor Marres/Mares is 1490
The year of birth of ancestor Mares is 1615
The year of birth of ancestor Marres is 1759
The Average years of births of the paticipants is 1946.

The proven family relationship

The results the genealogical and genetic research are fully similar.

In the article about the Marres family, published in 1990 in De Nederlandsche Leeuw, the ancestor of the Marres and Mares families is expected fifteen generations back. The genographic test estimates him between twelve and fifteen generations. This is within the expected time.

In conclusion we can say that it is convincing proven that the four genetically tested persons: two members with the name Marres and two with the name Mares indeed have the common ancestor that is presupposed in the literature and that these families Marres and Mares are branches of one and the same family.

Here follow the 112 markers (38, 30 and 44) of two members one of both branches.

Dys markers on a blue box   -   dys values in yellow   -   One genetic step in fawn   -   two steps in maroon.

393 390 19a 19b 391 385a 385b 426 388 439 389i 392 389ii 458 459a 459b 455 454 447 437 448 449 464a 464b 464c 464d 460 GATA
h4
YCA
IIa
YCA
IIb
456 607 576 570 CDY
a
CDY
b
442 438
  B. Marres   14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 09 09 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 11 20 20 15 14 17 18 33 40 11 10
  G. Mares   14 22 15 15 10 13 14 11 12 11 12 11 28 16 09 09 11 11 23 16 22 29 12 13 14 14 11 10 20 20 15 14 17 18 32 38 11 10
 
531 578 395
S1a
395
S1b
590 537 641 472 406
S1
511 425 413a 413b 557 594 436 490 534 450 444 481 520 446 617 568 487 572 640 492 565
 B. Marres  11 08 16 16 08 11 10 08 11 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 16 08 12 24 20 15 13 11 13 10 11 11 12
 G. Mares  11 08 16 16 08 11 10 08 11 10 12 21 22 15 10 12 12 16 08 12 24 20 15 13 11 13 10 11 11 12
 
710 485 632 495 540 714 716 717 505 556 549 589 522 494 533 636 575 638 462 452 445 Y-GATA
A10
463 441 Y-GGAAT
1B0
7
525 712 593 650 532 715 504 513 561 552 726 635 587 643 497 510 434 461 435
 B. Marres  40 15 08 15 11 22 28 21 12 11 13 13 11 09 10 11 10 11 14 27 10 12 22 13 11 10 24 15 18 14 23 18 14 16 26 12 21 18 11 14 18 09 12 11
 G. Mares  40 15 08 15 11 22 27 21 12 11 13 13 11 09 10 11 10 11 13 28 10 12 22 13 11 10 23 15 18 14 23 18 13 16 26 12 21 18 11 14 18 09 12 11
Conclusion

The two tested men have in their haplotypes a genetic distance of 9 determined in 112 STR markers.

Both also tested each 526 STR markers by means of a so-called Big Y test. Their genetic distance is here 13.

This corresponds with the supposed first common ancestor who lived 14 generations back, so they are 13th cousins. (5)

The standard group of 111 markers clearly has the correct amount needed to determine the degree of kinship and the time to the most recent common ancestor.

We saw that SNPs can be used to calculate the duration of the longer trunk lines and the genetic distance can be used for family relationship.

The family time line is published on the Y-DNA G Tree of YFull.

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Mitochondrial DNA

In the mitochondria of the body cells of all living things there is a relatively small amount of DNA. This comes from the female egg cell. It is thus passed on by the mother to sons and daughters, but only daughters pass it on, the sons do not. The Mt DNA in a family therefore varies per household. It is determined in our family member E.C.W.L. Boed Marres.

The ascending line goes from his mother over the families: Franquinet, Tielens, Corten, Becker, Geurts, Meyers, Peussens, Claessens, Deumans, Brants, Limpens, and so finally to the oldest known foremother Margaretha Geelen, born around the year 1570 who lived in Schinnen, South Limburg, 15 kilometers northeast of Maastricht.

Mt DNA is also divided into haplogroups by analogy with the Y-DNA, although they are biochemically rather different. The haplo group is I1a1*.

MT-DNA Tree
Mt tree, journal.pone.0208829.g001

The beginning of the Mitochodrial Tree.

PhyloTree.org - mtDNA tree Build 17 (18 Feb 2016) subtree N1

The place of the Marres family in the Mitochodrial family tree is indicated dark brown

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AUTOSOMAL DNA

Autosomal DNA is the total DNA of all chromosomes and comes from all ancestors. It gives a picture of the origin of the joint ancestry. (7)

B.M. K36 Ancestry Report Geografcal 2018-800

With the mouse on the map there is an enlargement and green dot on Maastricht.

My genome has common genes with mainly West Germans, starting with the people of Hessen and Baden-Württemberg, then mainly South Germany and Switzerland, followed by the Walloons, Northern French, Lorraine, Flemings and finally Englishmen from the South-East.

In the first millennium of our era and perhaps even before, many peoples went from East to West Europe. And many residents of what is now the Netherlands, Belgium, Westphalia and Saxony went on to Great Britain. Many of course also lagged behind.

My ancestors came all from regions more southerly than Maastricht. Striking is the lower share of Limburgers. Brabanders are poorly represented and the other Dutch are hardly there. When many use their genome for research in this way, this will make European migration history more clear.

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GEDMATCH

This is a group of geneticists who carry out the autosomatic tests for the large companies. They searched for origins from thousands of years ago with the original inhabitants of Eurasia.

The oldest are the Altaic natives who stayed here on the tundra during the ice ages. After the ice ages around 10,000 years ago the hunter-gathererers who repopulated the European mainland from their refugia on the Mediterranean. The Neolithic farmers came from Anatolia 7,000 thousand years ago, and the Corded ware people Iron Age people arrived from the Caucasus 5000 years ago. The Huns also have some left traces.

Etnische herkomst B. Marres, Bron: GedMatch

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Gedmatch compared our family DNA with archaeological remains of hunter-gatherers and the first European Neolithic farmers. Below is a figure with the results in order of the established relationship with whom we share at least one CentiMorgan, a measure of kinship. (8)

In archaeogenetics, 1 cM is the lower limit for kinship. The higher this number is, the greater the kinship, so with more and thicker lines.

In the table below we are the most related to two Neolithic persons who lived 7200 and 3200 years ago in what is now Hungary. They are closely followed by a 7000-year-old discovery from Stuttgart, then a Luxemburger from 8000 years ago. Then a 45,000 year old find from Siberia and a North American Indian from 12,000 years back. His ancestors must not have crossed the Beringbridge not long before that time.

Striking is the large genetic distance to English, Scandinavians and Spaniards Here we seem to have hardly any common ancestors. The least we are related to a Brit - at the very bottom - with whom we share segments of 1 or 2 cM in five places.

GEDmatch-1cM-c

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Neanderthal genes

A nice test is the presence of Neanderthal genes. Our quantity is estimated, depending on the testing laboratory, between 2.8% and 4.8%, of which about 2/3 come from Neanderthals and 1/3 from another pre-modern human species, the Denisovans.

schedels noderne mens en Neanderthaler

Two Skulls, one of a modern man and one of a Neanderthal in Museum of Natural History in Cleveland.
I applied the bimaxillary prognathism to the Neanderthal.
When the mouse is on the picture you will see the original image (9)

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The family DNA Marres

At the International Congress for
Genealogical and Heraldic Sciences
held in Maastricht in September 2012

At this Congress Dr. W. Penninx pronounced the opening lecture. He discussed the variants in the Y-DNA of the various branches of the Marres family and how small mutations in the Y-DNA can show near and distant family relationships, which is impossible to do with only genealogical and historical research.

He shows familial relationships that go back to the Middle Ages and even to the Neolithic. The results of the DNA tests in the Marres family serve as an example.

The motivation for launching the genetic study was our goal the expected but not yet proven genealogical relationship between the Dutch Marres and Mares families, if not to prove then at least with a maximum of security to make plausible.

Genetic Variation in the Netherlands in the Last 2000 Years-a

Genetic Variation in the Last 2000 Years

It has always been assumed that the Maastricht families Marres and Mares were two branches of one family. We were able to demonstrate this relationship with DNA research.

When this goal was achieved, we used the genetic knowledge built up by this to find out our family history until prehistoric times. With the collected facts we hope to contribute not only to the national history of our country but also to the European and world history.

Many publications have appeared in the genealogical and heraldic magazines about the Marres family. In one of them, De Nederlandsche Leeuw of 1990, the common origin of the Marres and Mares family has been made plausible. (10)

The rise of the DNA research in this century offered a wonderful method to prove the supposed relationship. Four men from the Marres and Mares families participated in this genetic family research and did DNA tests: Boed and Gilbert Marres, and André and (the late) Guus Mares and participated in several projects. (11)


Writer: E.C.W.L. (Boed) Marres, Amsterdam

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